Ladderburners featured on the Change Your Mindset Podcast

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Chief Executive Ladderburner, Alan Patterson, and Ladderburner consultant, Jenny Knuth, had the honor of chatting with Peter Margaritis, the host of Change Your Mindset Podcast about Alan’s book, Burn Ladders. Build Bridges., including exploration of exactly what separates Ladderburners from the rest of the pack – specifically what they do to advance in their career, as well as find meaning and purpose in their respective roles and work.

Here’s what Peter had to share about the conversation:

While working with my clients, I realized that there is blind faith in career progression and that people were on this treadmill that inherently held that someone else would decide for them the next step. Despite the need for such judgments, it is evident that devastation has taken place because people have become very limited, thus the need for a better concept and a better mindset.

Many people feel like the moves they need to make are out of their control, and I beg to differ. There’s a lot within your control, but the approach has to be different. If you’re looking for meaning and purpose, you’re not going to find it on the ladder. That meaning and purpose comes through meeting and working with people.

It’s not a one-size-fits-all when it comes to who is a ladder burner. However, the people you find on the edge of the organizations have created these multiple relationships across the organization. So people that speak up have this broader view of their job and are looking to make a difference would be characterized as ladder burners…

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About The Change Your Mindset Podcast and Peter Margaritis

The Change Your Mindset podcast is hosted by Peter Margaritis, CPA, A.K.A. The Accidental Accountant. Peter is a speaker, expert in applied improvisation and author of the books: Off Script Mastering the Art of Business ImprovImprov Is No Joke, Using Improvization to Create Positive Results in Leadership and Life and Taking the Numb Out of Numbers: Explaining & Presenting Financial Information with Confidence and Clarity.